The Centre Ground

I think the centre obviously moves. I mean, when the Gang of Four formed the STP, their manifesto in the early 1980s was closer to the manifesto that Jeremy Corbyn put forward in 2017. And so the fact that trying to plot it somewhere on a spectrum of left and right or liberal and authoritarian, I think is very difficult. If you think that's the centre ground, here, Starmer's a Marxist in terms of the gap. Absolutely. But George Osborne economically and David Cameron, you mentioned social liberalism, but is that enough to put them on the centre ground? Their economic policies were real term spending cuts, austerity, sort of what Oliver Letwin described to me as turbo