When I'm most down at a down point, it's really hard to think about helping others because you're so consumed with the potential disasters in your mind. And that's usually the turning point for most people is turning from that inward focus to outward. That was something that taught me about this sort of flipping things around. You just brought back a wave of memories of when I was younger. We did that enough to see the power of like being vulnerable, of being able to receive things.

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