We're using publicly available arrest records. So we're using c c t v license plates, readers and all those things are a totally different level. The surveillance state in that way is also goes horribly wrong. In the public health context, the science is exactly the science of contact tracing. It's literally finding out who's in harm's way, getting resources to keep them safe. We've seen this done, by the way, in other epidemics. But covid spreads much more quickly than gun violence. And so it's harder to contain covid.

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