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Episode 410 of the "Sports Illustrated Media Podcast" hosted by Jimmy Traina features a conversation with radio legend Dan Le Batard.

Le Batard talks about his time at ESPN, why he had to leave the company, the ups and downs he had there over the years and the generous move ESPN made when he left. Le Batard also discusses going out on his own, why he partnered with DraftKings, having such a loyal, rabid fan base, why he hates sports debates, Stephen A. Smith's status at ESPN and much more.

The podcast closes with the weekly "Traina Thoughts" segment with Sal Licata, from WFAN and SNY in New York. This week, Jimmy and Sal discuss the MLB postseason, Bob Costas calling a playoff series for TBS, the Davonte Adams shoving a cameraman and Troy Aikman's controversial comments. The duo also give out a weekly NFL "best bet."