If these guys lived through the 2,300 years since they lived right up until today, they would deliver stoicism very differently. These guys have been dead for a really long time, and we've learned a lot since then. With that said, let's return to the meditation. For he who is excited by anger seems to turn away from reason with a certain pain and unconscious contraction,. but he who offends through desire, being overpowered by pleasure seems to be in a manner more in temperate and more womanish in his offenses.