Fashion icon and environmental advocate Lily Cole joins Evanna and Melanie on this week’s episode to chat about her book Who Cares Wins, in which she presents a plethora of potential solutions to the environmental crisis intended to inspire and create lasting global change. In this wide-ranging conversation, they discuss the importance of having an attitude of openness and dialog when addressing environmental issues, why animal agriculture is such a contentious topic within the climate movement, and how to choose a focus when there are so many worthy causes in the world.

Check out Lily’s book Who Cares Wins and her accompanying podcast.

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Lily’s upcoming film Hilma will be out later in 2022.

Lily refers to George Monbiot’s book Regenesis, Simon Amstell’s BBC “mockumentary” Carnage, and Andrea Arnold’s film Cow. 

Check out Melanie’s book Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows.

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This episode was edited by Andrew Sims.