You Don't Need Venture Money in Order to Build a Big Company

When i met you back in the r j metric days, by you didn't raise a money. Maybe it w's partly due to the fact that you're new or just coming aut the global financial crisis in stuff. Then you start a cross beam, got o full disclosure, i'm a cross beam investor. And you raise the gazilion dollars in cross beam. Like, how do you think about, like, is it now you're just using the advantage of being kind of a third time founder? Yes, there is a lot at kind of comes with experience here.

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