The Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd had 17 complaints filed against him. "Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets," says author Julian Zelizer. We can't trust public safety to the worst behavior of the worst officers, writes Zelizer.
We knew a pandemic was coming. We knew our police were treating some of us differently than others. So why were we so unprepared for what happened? In this eye-opening conversation, Rufus and author Dan Heath dig into what it takes to root out problems at their source, both in our own lives and in the larger world.