People tend to struggle with acknowledging the fact that chronitrom or vicarious drama can affect them on the same level as something more acute. The chronic dramas have to be acknowledged just as much as the acute dramas in order for us to and since get our arms it and move forward, which we can do. I mean, a very hopeful message of my book is that we, we can make this better. We don't have to understand every aspect of brain functioning, right? Which wic probably never will as human beings, it's so plicated. In order to help each other, we can ground to these basic principles, for example, a safe place to talk about trama,

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