How Do We Achieve a Just Transition?

How do we achieve a just transition though? Where do you start? So that's a great question and I think the first part is to try and understand what actually is it. And so making sure you can bring in previously marginalized groups in society be that on many different dimensions, but socioeconomically challenged groups is a critical part of a just transition. We shouldn't come out of this looking the same as we did before, but greener.