Speaker 2
Yeah, I think there's actually a term for it's like a system or something. I mean, I'm not. I read a book called Rest. Okay. Where the author talks about the default mode network, I think is what it's called. And it's like this part of your brain that is activated when you go off and do other stuff. Like, oh, I love that. Go on a walk, go to go take a trip, whatever. It's almost like your brain takes all the information it has and tries different combinations, whatever in the background. And then when you come back, that's how you have the sudden new perspective or new idea that unlocks the thing that you were stuck on. I love that. There is something just incredibly powerful, I think, of harnessing that. Yeah. And the power of
Speaker 1
time, you know? You just know, like that's a tool you have. Like you don't have to be grinding away at whatever it is you're doing until it's perfect and done. It's like, no, you have a tool which is to stop and walk away and go have a coffee and, you know, come back to it tomorrow or the next week or whenever and suddenly you're like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I think that's really valuable. Yeah. I also think of it like, okay, that was my practical. My esoteric answer is, bring me the esoteric answers. This is my poetic thing. I think, I'm very, I personify everything. And so these paintings to me are, as I'm doing it, it's literally a relationship. And sometimes I'm fighting and sometimes I'm like, it's this dance or whatever. But this is a living thing that's like coming to life. And it starts to, again, someone else said, it's like once it starts singing on its own, you know, you're getting close. And I had this image a bunch of years ago that I feel like when you're approaching that finish line, it's like this little voice is whispering, stop, enough, stop. And you're kind of half aware of it, but you keep going, you keep going, and it's just, it's always gonna whisper. And if you go too far, it just says, yeah, see? Too much. But if you can hear that, and the next time, maybe you'll recognize that little voice. And I think of it as this, I mean, all right, here we go. I think of it as this very rare bird in the forest. And you don't know necessarily what it sounds like. You haven't heard it yet, but you're out there taking a hike or whatever. And you hear this very faint little bird with its particular type of call. And once you've heard it, the next time you'll be able to recognize it. And so when I'm finishing a painting, I'm listening for that little particular voice. And then once you start to listen, you're like, oh, there it is. Okay, I can hear it. Here I go, I'm almost done. And so that for me is definitely part of the process. But I'm like, all right, I'm gonna listen to what this painting is saying to me. Because it's not just about me driving home something. That's amazing. I love that.