Jo and Rob grab their flight funds to recap the fourth episode of ‘Slow Horses’ Season 4. They open with a few more listener emails before discussing a theory on what landed J.K. Coe in Slough House, how they’re feeling about Season 4 in relation to past seasons, and the shocking fate of Sam Chapman (18:32). Along the way, they check in on coat watch and Spy Vs. Spy (38:22). Later, they’re joined by ‘Slow Horses’ showrunner and Emmy Award–winning writer Will Smith to talk about why Hugo Weaving was the perfect actor to play this season’s villain, what it’s like to be juggling multiple seasons at once, his approach to writing pleasant grumps, and much more (49:35).

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Rob Mahoney

Guest: Will Smith

Producer: Kai Grady

Additional Production Support: Justin Sayles

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