The Ugly Idea of Ukraine's Resilience

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A lot of the work and certainly the dangerous work has been done by Ukrainians. A lot of that has relied quite heavily on imports, you know, often donated from the West generally being imported into Ukraine so that it can be installed by Ukrainian engineers. It's a very ugly thing when US firms and people overseas sort of try and overtly take credit for what's often the bravery and diligence of Ukrainians doing difficult work.

Matt Tait is a cybersecurity expert who has worked both in the private sector and for the British government at GCHQ, the UK's intelligence, security, and cyber agency. He's also a Lawfare contributor. Like a lot of us, Tait has spent the last several months thinking about Ukraine, and Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes had cybersecurity questions for him. They talked about why the Ukrainian internet is still functioning and why the Russians have been so ineffective in the cyber arena. They also talked about whether U.S. support for Ukraine is threatened with Republicans in control of the House and what the Biden administration is going to do about Section 702, which is scheduled to expire at the end of next year.

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