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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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Depression and Burnout

I think mostly it's people that don't really understand what we do and how we came to be who we are. I wouldn't imagine anybody's asked you if you've been to the art center or if you come from that. It was definitely the school environment, but it was not the school's fault, right? Like for everything that I said before about how there can be a bit of a toxic environment or there was back then, I do think things have gotten better at Arts Center since I left. We have to remember or I think it's important to remember that you're still always choosing to take that on. In art, no one can put in great efforts for quite reasons

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