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Episode 147: Professor Ruth DeFries on lessons from the natural world on how to deal with environmental crises.

The Sustainability Agenda

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The Cost of Resilient Intra Structure

In terms of intra structure, i know thee commitments in america ave major intra structure commitments. Id be anteressed to get your thoughts a little bit on that. But its as resilient intra structure developed by governments and corporations too. The extra cost o including resilience, i guess it'sa slightly different paradise that's unfolding. Yes. So we had an example in texas when, when there was that cold snap in texas, and and they had so many problems. And part of the reason for that is because their grid is not connected to the rest of the grid in the country. So maybe that serves some purposes, but when you have a problem and you kind of wish that

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