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i comep arinar is joined bybishop frederick barr no, dante stuart. You might have seen him in the winter issue of relevant. Well, this is more of that conversation. Also, at the end of the show, we have a very whas jest, thinking for the christmas season. But before we toss the slices, i want to remind you that you can go over to relevant store dotcom right now and pre order the annual print edition of relevant.