I remember getting a book in, in sea thinking, oh, I'm going to learn programming and then reading it like, okay, this, I know it's pretty young. But yeah, I basically come from that. It's valuable to have that experience, but I'm also happy that I don't have to continuously work at that level, right? You can just be in a more productive and higher level language like Python. Yeah. Totally. Ray sort of started out as a response to the international kind of scientific project to build a square kilometer array telescope. The idea is to make it the most sensitive radio telescope that has ever been built. And Cerro is really just the