In the United States, most undergraduates get degrees in sports marketing or hotel tourrism. The curriculum has been so bastardized over the years it's really just kind of a joke to call it a liberal arts education. "We're talking about very different kinds of education here," he says.
Philosopher Jennifer Frey of the University of South Carolina talks about the state of the university in American education. Frey urges a stronger focus on virtue and human flourishing and a reduced focus on career preparation. Roberts, despite his sympathy with the examined life, challenges the virtue of philosophical enquiry. At the end of the conversation, both guest and host defend philosophy.