In this chapter of the podcast episode, they discuss choosing a back end framework for a project. They mention meta frameworks, which allow for both front end and back end development in a single repo and framework. They list some popular meta frameworks, including Remix, Felt Kit, and Astro, and also mention Gatsby and static site generators. They share their preferences for Spelt Kit and Astro, with one preferring Spelt Kit due to its integration with Svelt as the UI layer.

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