Right, so the hindrances, this is a good time for hindrances. And we could talk about many hindrances, the one that I wanna focus on is technology, because I think in order to have silence, we have to detach ourselves from technology. And there's different ways to approach this, but maybe to have you start. Gronsky, I will never forget in Switzerland, he said this, he said, no machine has ever helped man grow in contemplation. I just, I love that line. The only argument I would say like,

well what about

ivory, that helps me know in contemplation, right? But

I don't know, do you wanna expand on that? He stole that from Balthazar. That's a creative kind of spin on it. Balthazar in his book, The God Question in Modern Man says, no machine has ever made the slightest contribution to prayer.

There it is.

Which is true. And which is despite the fact that ivory is actually quite helpful, when we're moving around and stuff, we gotta pray the office. But it's not contributive, like machines. Like Jacob and I are gonna talk about AI a little later in the spring. And what AI can't do is something creative, right? It cannot produce prayer. Prayer is something that's very deep and it's extremely personal and human. And machines cannot do that. They can appear to replicate it. They can kind of find patterns very quickly and then reproduce these things. But it's not actually prayer because there's not actually a soul. There's not a rational soul. There's not a heart to these things. So I think that the technology piece is that's a huge thing that we're so deeply absorbed in. I read a statistic in the comfort crisis. I think it was. Let me see if I can find this exactly. How much the average person is on there on digital media every day. I think it's 11 hours and six minutes is the average person. And that would include work, but regardless. Digital media, yeah. So half of our day, half of our life is connected to this digital media. And that says, whoa, this is like crazy. So when you separate from it, it's, you feel it. Yeah, the average person spends 11 hours and six minutes a day using digital technology. And then he talks about this kind of boredom that sets in in an unfocused mode, a great book, comfort crisis. But going into retreat, you detox from it.