Is There a Clash Between Ambition and Odium on Threnedy?

There's some weird, interesting things happening on threnedy. We don't know if odium shattered ambition or whether he just stayed there for a long time and it kind of seeped in to that system. There are so many different connections with ways that we've seen this play out in forms of literature or just human mythology in the past. The whole cosmer universe is undergoing some craziness right now.