The Attitude of a Pilgrim

"It's absolutely a defeating attitude the Satan wants you to adopt," he says. "You're in the position of Satan and Job where you're like making bets on except you're making a bet on yourself right which is missing but it's nonsense" He also talks about his own relapse from sobriety, when he relapsed during quarantine after being sober for several years. 'I just wasted all those years that I was sober no I didn't,' he says. "'If not someone's got to be the weirdest so why not you' That idea of like well I know I'm gonna sin ... we can't even sin tomorrow'"

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