i think brett went to some weird places with covid during the pandemic that felt a little bit like this phenomenon when i'd sample in in a show here and there. I'm not if i'm getting that wrong, bret am big apologies. So in his case, i think some of that might have happened. Again, i don't know a tun about them. I know they have a new book out that sort of seems completely main stream. It has to do about what you can learn from sort of evolutionary theory in the history of our species,. About modern life, a sort of down-the-middle approach.

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