Last year I did an episode on MEV with James Prestwich. We interviewed Phil and Alex from the Flashbots team. Last two weeks have been our whirlwind, but we'll get to that in a second. There's like very deep, you know, profound implications for security of blockchains when MEV exists. In the early days, there is even an idea to do sort of this like CASPER finality gadget on top of the proof of work chain which would manage all the validators within a smart contract. And we've we've come very far in our thinking around how to do this.

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