Navigating Political Ideology and Sponsorship

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In this episode, we delve into multiple controversies surrounding attempts on Trump's life during his candidacy and presidency, examining the Secret Service's performance and the potential implications of diversity hires. We discuss the role of extremist views within government agencies, the influence of left-wing ideologies, and how these factors might relate to the broader political landscape. Additionally, personal opinions and humorous takes are shared regarding various social and political issues, culminating in a light-hearted conversation about holiday meals and cultural preferences.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. For those who don't know, while Trump was running for office before he won, he had Or three, if you include the Iranian one, attempts against his life near misses in terms of presidential assassinations.

And the two of them were quite embarrassing for the secret service. Everyone said, how could this happen? It can't just be that a DEI hire woman is running the secret service now, which obviously she shouldn't be. And people are like, well, she has an illustrious career. It's like, okay. Historically speaking, how many secret service members have been women?

Oh, like 2%. Okay. So. What's the chance that one of those 2 percent is the very best one to be running the organization? Oh, almost none? Yeah. So it's a DEI hire. So, that she's done such a terrifically bad job. And then Democrats tried to pass a bill to before all of this to cut Trump's secret service.

Basically almost ensuring that he got assassinated, which is [00:01:00] horrifying. And these members of the House and the Senate who were involved in this, they need to have a reckoning. But, surely the Secret Service itself couldn't have been compromised. Today we are going to be talking about a story that has not gotten much coverage in the U.

S. because it does not fill into the narrative that the left wants to tell you about what's going on. But I've checked it, and it appears true. And so we'll just go into it. Now I'm gonna be careful about not doxing this individual, though the report that brings all this up does dox the individual involved in all this. And they backed all this up with this person's own social media accounts. So it's, it's it's not like a, a vague thing, whether or not this is true or not at this point.

Simone Collins: I was worried you were going to do like some of those YouTubers out there who were like,

I'm commenting on this person, but I don't want to hear any insults on them in the comments.

Like there was this one dietician YouTuber I follow who's like,

Now, I [00:02:00] don't want anyone to comment on her weight

or basically, basically she was like,

this fat f**k. I don't want you to talk about how ugly they are or how fat they are or how terrible they are. Stop doing that. We're never going to insult this person.

It's just like roasted this person. It's like, lady, you're not nice. Don't think you're being nice right now. I

Malcolm Collins: hate it when people do that. When they do something, I

Simone Collins: don't want you to.

Malcolm Collins: Now this, this fat, disgusting piece of

Simone Collins: Yeah, like, oh, oh, yeah, because you're so, you're so nice to them that you just don't want any of your followers to do it.

Malcolm Collins: No, I'd actually say with this individual I think by the end of this you'll feel bad for them. They seem just completely brainwashed. Their life has been ruined. They are, they've ruined their own life because of the brainwashing. They have no ability to see reality as it exists. But unfortunately, they're also exactly the type of person who might try to assassinate the president.

Because they believe that Trump is a Nazi despite the fact that he is like one of the most pro Jewish presidents in American history.

Simone Collins: [00:03:00] Here's this theory I have actually, though. It's like, so to get to a certain level, this person, you know, had to be pretty competent, presumably. And I think maybe they didn't actually assassinate.

When they had a chance, because ultimately the number of people who kill other people and who do really, really, really bad things as a very, very, very small proportion of the population and just

Malcolm Collins: this person said they liked doing stuff like that back when they were a cop. So don't worry.

Simone Collins: Oh, okay. Let's get into it.

Give me the dirt man.

Malcolm Collins: Don't don't worry. It's a. Keep it on me or action or something like that. All right. So, I mean, here are some quotes from his. These chodes are cowards and won't win no matter how long it takes to pry them from power. If they managed to cheat their way back into it. So a chode

Simone Collins: is a small penis, right?

I only just learned that word.

Malcolm Collins: It's a penis that's bigger in diameter than it is in length.

It's not a real thing that exists. It's like a joke. It means whale penis. Some [00:04:00] school bullying, but anyway,

initially Trump can't win. He's like, they're cowards who won't win, but if they do cheat their way to power, we need to pry them from it. Okay. So definitionally they, when they cheat and then he said in a 2023 Reddit post, the survival rate of fascist dictatorships trends towards zero.

Simone Collins: I mean, that's true.

As you point out in the pragmatist guide to governance, it's very, very dangerous to be a dictator.

Malcolm Collins: Yes. He means this, I think more of the threat. Yeah, yeah. Keep in mind. Or, or quote, Americans who voted for a dude who has Nazi ass policies and who surrounds himself with people who do, including actual neo Nazis.

Is what he said at the end of the 2024 election cycle. He also said when you're willing to vote Trump and support a guy who has policies mirroring the Third Reich, and again, had actual neo Nazis around [00:05:00] him, you're a Nazi. So, this guy would believe that by killing Trump, he's doing something equivalent to killing Hitler.

He, he confesses to being a lifelong radical and a devout follower of the infamous 20th century anarchist Peter Topkin, whose literary works include Pinocchio communism, continue to fuel street violence and other acts of domestic terrorism. He even describes himself as a quote unquote, walking, talking info shop of anarchist political theory and credits online antifascist for radicalizing him against the quote unquote, the right via several different corporate sponsored podcasts.

Simone Collins: Corporate sponsored. What does that mean? Like brought to you by better help just in case you need more anarchist

Malcolm Collins: counseling..

Simone Collins: It

Malcolm Collins: appears that there is evidence that the podcast, which I haven't mentioned yet,

but which we come later that radicalized him are sponsored by big companies. Don't. By some Reddit threads here. [00:06:00] Okay.

Simone Collins: Anyway. Athletic Greens. It helps you get the energy you need to make your next Molotov cocktail.

Well,

Malcolm Collins: everybody knows all the big companies are in bed with like Antifa and the Far Wokies. So like, all right, quote, Trump's rhetoric is Nazi rhetoric, literal or figurative. It doesn't matter if you replace most of what he has said about Latinos or Haitians or other groups, either word was Jew. It sounds like somebody told chat GPT

to make Hitler sound like even more of a dipshit, end quote. He posted that to our politics. Just own that your guy's a Nazi. That you're a Nazi for supporting him. If you're going to be a jackboot, then you may as well not be a coward about it. End quote there. Which, of course, as we pointed out, like, the leftists are literal Nazis.

And for people who haven't, like, they divide humans based on their ethnicity. We've seen this at a federal level, under Biden's administration, the CDC said that vaccines, which they believe are saving lives, should not be given out based on need, but in part based on a person's ethnic background, prioritizing some [00:07:00] ethnicities over others.

They super deprioritize Jews as has been seen in the recent stuff around Israel. It really is. Just a recreation of Nazi ideology. They believe I

Simone Collins: do really appreciate your pointing this out because I think it's it's my tendency and the tendency of the average person to just kind of assume or air in favor of nothing interesting ever happens and there can't actually be a conspiracy and it can't actually be that bad because that would be crazy.

And it's, it's important that you point out specifically and explicitly how they actually are behaving in a fashion.

Malcolm Collins: And we've pointed this out about fascists, people come up with all these ridiculous definitions of fascists that were like coming up at the university level. to try to hide what a fascist actually is.

They'll have very simple explanations of communism and capitalism. They say capitalism is when we believe that individuals should be able to make their own economic choices and that organizations that are doing well should be able to out compete those organizations that are doing poorly. They say [00:08:00] communism is when the state should control all economic policy for the betterment of the people.

of the average citizen whereas fascism is the state should control all economic policy for the benefit of a specific ideology. But as soon as you say that, they're like, Oh, that's what the democratic party is. Oh, oh. And they're like, well, at least it's not one that divides humans into ethnic groups that they believe have different levels of human.

Oh. At least it's not one that targets Jews. Oh. You know, go to a college campus today as a Jewish person, watch them being chased through the streets. It's insane. Watch plotting gay, the HUD. Yeah, I guess I've not heard

Simone Collins: any versions of being chased through campus. If you're wearing like a keffiyeh, but if you're wearing.

No, no, this isn't happening. Muslims

Malcolm Collins: aren't barring themselves in libraries and college campuses and stuff like that to prevent themselves from being attacked. Like the, the, that the left pretends like this is a two sides issue is completely delusional.

And it's not delusional, but it actually mirrors what the Nazis did to get people to dehumanize the Jews.

Which is that they said that the Jews have power and [00:09:00] privilege and are using it to undermine the you know, in their case, poor Germans, in this case, it's poor persons of color, you know, it's, it's, it's the same narrative all over again. Anyway,

Simone Collins: This guy, this guy.

Malcolm Collins: So he said, quote, in college, I was about as left as you could get full red and black in quote. And he posts on message boards such as are behind the b******s or socialism, et cetera.

Simone Collins: What is red and black? I mean, I'm just thinking Darth Vader or Calvinist.

Malcolm Collins: I'm sure it means something. The podcast network, which is corporate sponsored, which he was brainwashed by is called cool zone media network. And it's run by Bellingcat gadfly. Who is a, and the self entitled anarchist Robert Evans

alongside Antifa seamsters.

Simone Collins: Well, it just sounds like a fictional like zine from the nineties.

Cool.

Malcolm Collins: And here is a quote from him, a Secret Service member, again, I remind you. Antifa [00:10:00] Wait, what is this first person? Fascists and Nazis, there's a rather sizable contingent of them, who are wrapped in flag, holding a cross, and wearing red hats. If it makes me a jackboot to oppose shitty people, then baby, you got my boot to polish.

So again, he's saying he wants to act as a jackboot. Again What is

Simone Collins: a jackboot?

Malcolm Collins: Jack boot is what you call a fascist. It's another word for fascist. And so in our Antifa episode, what we say is that like the core thing of Antifa, because it's such a decentralized organization, is it's the belief that they should treat anyone who is center right, as this person is, I mean, more than 50 percent of the country voted for Trump, he thinks all of them should be treated the way that you treat somebody who is in the midst of an active genocide, which is just his What is called a psychological license to dehumanize other people and use his position of systematic power and privilege i.

e Working for the secret service to carry that out [00:11:00] And another quote here if you support trump You're either an a*****e because you put the economy first over the rights, by the way the economy first feeding your family over the rights of people and over human dignity, or because you want him to hurt people you don't like, or because you buy into his message completely, which case you're both an a*****e and a Nazi.

He said, and so again, just completely disconnected from reality. Like he doesn't.

Simone Collins: I'm hearing classic Trump derangement and plus identifying with leftist groups.

Malcolm Collins: But the question is, how in the Secret Service was this not detected? How are you not getting it? Don't they

Simone Collins: do these like very detailed background reference checks?

You know, like the interview of your cousins and your neighbors and your former classmates and they look at all your social media. What happened?

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, if you look at the things that he's accused Republicans of potentially carrying out, it's stuff like the banning of interracial marriage, abortion and the deportation of American blacks.

Maybe

Simone Collins: this came up in his background checks, but [00:12:00] everyone's like, well, that sounds evil and he's against evil stuff. So all right, he's fine.

Malcolm Collins: No, 50 percent of Americans are being pro all of this stuff.

Simone Collins: Well, yeah. That, that's the new, and this is the thing

Malcolm Collins: where he falsely accuses your average, the, the, the new right.

That controls this. Trump administration is an incredibly centris party. Yeah. So much so that, you know, you look at him. Yeah. But they we're

Simone Collins: talking about his college self, so who knows, you know?

Malcolm Collins: No, no. This isn't college. This is from last year, sweetheart. Oh, .

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: This is the center. Right. To give you an idea of how centrist the center right is you look at who's leading Trump's organizations.

It's like. Chelsea Gabbard, a former Democrat, right? And RFK, another former Democrat one of the people who is running against Trump. It is Democrats aren't doing this. They're not appointing Republicans to top level positions in these administrations. Now, of course, the Democrats dehumanize these people so much that you have people like Destiny saying that, like, Chelsea Gabbard should be taken off all social media because again, they just, when they had power, they just [00:13:00] wanted to put the boot on everyone's neck and they're showing it again and they're showing how racist they actually are.

You can watch our video. You know, report to the Mar a Lago breeding pens where we go over just how racist the Democrats turned out to be the moment the racial minorities whose identity they had taken and they thought they owned didn't do what they told them to in big enough numbers when the majority of Latino men voted for Trump and they just went for it.

Full on, like, honestly, the stuff that they were saying, mainstream Democrats were saying about Latino men was worse than anything Trump has said about Latino men in his entire life by a degree of like 5X. And I think it's because the truth is that they're racist. They know, everyone knows that they're racist.

And this is the thing where I'm like, Trump's a racist. I'm like, really? You think Trump's a racist? Yeah, he's a racist idiot with poor self control. And I go, there are one of two things that are true. Either Trump is a racist. Or Trump has poor self control because Trump has been in the public limelight his entire effing life.

He has been on shock jock [00:14:00] shows like Howard Stern, where he has said disgusting things where he has said sexually improprietous things that were totally out of the mores of society. I was actually,

Simone Collins: I was listening to clips from the grabber by the pussy interview somehow randomly today. And he, he actually mentioned Like that he was putting tic tacs in his mouth because he was going to like, kiss a woman without her permission.

But I was like, well, I mean, he's trying to make it pleasant. I just, it was not even as bad as I thought it would be, you know, I think most women who are forcibly kissed are not forcibly kissed by someone who's just freshened their breath. So. He's a conscientious grabber by the pussy kind of guy. Which again, our argument for our culture and for the culture that Trump kind of is coming to represent the response to grab her by the pussy is grabbed by the balls or kick him in the balls.

Like this is just the kind of culture, like if you don't like it, hit back. And, and what's being misunderstood, I think is a cultural mismatch of. You know, a bunch of pearl clutchers [00:15:00] who don't have the wherewithal to push back the same way that someone with a more blunt and low culture background is.

You know what I'm saying, right?

Malcolm Collins: Well, yeah, I mean, the, the, the point being is that a lot of these, these, it's just like Trump is like, obviously not, like, if you have like a brain, you know, Trump is not racist. Otherwise he would have done racist things back when he didn't know he was running for president.

And back when those things were acceptable, he's been alive for a long time. Biden has said he's been

Simone Collins: alive for a long time and he's been on the media for a long time. This is Biden

Malcolm Collins: has said more explicitly racist stuff in the last 10 years than Trump has said in the last 50

years.

That's wild to me.

I mean, to me, that shows that this is genuinely a man. Where Biden's like, oh, well, you know, we want to help smart, what is it, like rich people and black people. You don't vote for me, you ain't black. Like, those are hugely racist things to say.

And Trump's never had any [00:16:00] sort of a gaffe like that. Which to me says that even accidentally, like even in his heart of hearts, he doesn't have racism. And I think that that's why he's never really gelled with the racists who want to use him as their champion and why they recently all turned against him.

Now here's where you might start feeling for this guy. So his disinterest in actually protecting Trump may have Led to Trump being elected and now he's in this tough position where he's this dyed in the wool Antifa super commie. And he has to serve under a Republican administration, which was something that he never fully considered might happen.

And so he's been reaching out on places like Reddit. It could happen here. That's where this, this Post happened. And so I'll quote for it. So he goes seeking help about getting out Before you guys read this and someone says glowy Glowy means looks like a fed because he does look like a fed basically means that these groups won't really trust him

Oh,

And that's true.

They won't really trust him and that's the problem, right? He can't stay where he is and he can't leave [00:17:00] Yeah And I know how it sounds. I get it if you read this and don't buy that I'm serious. I'm happy to provide Moz with proof that I'm actually in the field. I'm in. I'm genuinely am here and lost. In college, I was about as left as you could get, full red and black, but I fell into the trap of signing up to be law enforcement, both to pay my bills and because I wanted to help people.

My dumb ass thought that there was some hope to work to better the world from inside the system. My first agency didn't do either of those things. So I went was what was a pretty prestigious until recently federal agency. And so basically he went from being a cop, which is what he started as again. I haven't talked about his starting career because I don't want to dox him too much to being in the Secret Service.

Now that a new administration is coming in, I suddenly realize that I've been wrong for almost 10 years. I sold out. I'm disgusted with myself.

There's no way to help from inside the system, not as a law enforcement. For every person I helped, my co workers hurt more. For every person I [00:18:00] got mental health or domestic abuse resources, my co workers undid twice as much. I can't be part of this anymore. How does the logic work there? But if he's not there, then he's not doing that.

So even if his coworkers are doing more bad than he's doing good, presumably he's still doing good. Just

Simone Collins: feeling beat down. Probably.

Malcolm Collins: I don't think he's feeling beat down. Basically what he means is he wants to be lauded by the communities that he looks for for social affirmation. And he's willing to sell out the poor and downtrodden to receive that social affirmation.

I want to help. I want to leave my job, maybe go back to work as an advocate for something like the ACLU or the SPLC or something like that. I even applied to an open spot at the ACLU tonight, but I feel still feel so hopeless. I don't know where to start. I was hoping maybe someone might be able to give me a nudge.

I feel totally lost. I have no idea what to do. Is it even possible to get back on the right side of things anymore?

Simone Collins: Oh, wow.

This reminds me of, you know, [00:19:00] That show that I got so obsessed with called The Good Fight, where the lawyer, the like lead female in the show, this lawyer has serious Trump derangement syndrome and really, really, really like believes in her side and wants to help and wants to make a difference and just keeps kind of losing her mind when she feels like she just can't make a difference and no matter what she does, like she doesn't get her way.

And conservatives still continue to exist somehow, and it drives her completely nuts and insane. And it, this seems like the sky's going through the same thing. And all because they're fighting for

Malcolm Collins: a world that doesn't exist. They're fighting for a world where, and this is the thing, where they're not the fascists, right?

And so they need to delude themselves. They need to delude themselves into believing that Trump's going to deport, like, black Americans. They need to delude themselves into believing, That you know, a national abortion ban is on the way. They need to delude themselves into believing that women aren't going to have any rights anymore.

Like, it's all ridiculous. It's all ridiculous. Yeah. [00:20:00] And it's sad. It's sad. But, and I'd also note here that the organization that he was so happy to apply for a job at, the Southern Poverty Law Center, even under a left leaning administration

members of it were convicted of terrorism. So, of the SPLAC, the SPLC, sorry, it's a Southern Poverty Law Center.

The hope not

Simone Collins: hate of the U. S.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, the hope not hate of the U. S. is one person said. A staff lawyer in two foreign nationals among 23 Antifa charged with domestic terrorism after cop city riot. This has been 2023. According to the Delcub jail booking records, Thomas Webb, sorry, I won't say the name, a staff lawyer for the anti white hate group the Southern Property Law Center was one of the arrested. He was arrested alongside 22 others that have been charged with domestic terrorism by the Juro Bureau of Investigation for their role in pillaging the construction site of an 85 acre training complex of the city's police and fire departments.

Oh goodness. And of the person who radicalized him when he made this really [00:21:00] sad post, the most upvoted comment was, whoever it is, the person radicalized, I credit you and your works for helping me reach this point. And in response to this, he received a mix of comments from the anti fascists, some outright disbelieving him while others staying true to their ACAB values. All cops are b*****d values, just discrediting him, hitting on

Simone Collins: him,

Malcolm Collins: Saying that he could something

Simone Collins: I just hate about.

The way, where the left has gone is that you can't win even giving your life to the cause. Here's this guy who is clearly giving everything he can and who is completely bought in hook, line, and sinker and he's being hated on despite coming to them for help. Despite being disheartened, you would think that they'd give more encouragement than that.

That's sad.

Malcolm Collins: It is sad. It is sad. I, I, I don't know. Like, he just appears brainwashed. He doesn't appear to be like a good or bad person. He's just an ant with cordyceps. Is an ant with cordyceps against the hive? [00:22:00] Not really. It's just a tool of the fungus now. It's just a tool of the self replicating memetic virus.

And the, the person who infected him their reply was the, the top reply. And he had thanked the person for radicalizing him, giving him this virus, erasing his identity and any shred of human dignity he had. Becoming a Nazi himself. He basically appeared to hand wave this guy's involvement with the United States government. And they didn't respond to that. He said, thank you, Robert. I credit you and your works for helping me reach this point. Your words mean so much. Cool zone media is one of the few things that helped me start turning the gears and showing me the inner light again.

That light, as you say, is telling me I can't stay where I am. And I'm willing to accept that I'll be on the outside, that I'll have to prove my intentions, but I just can't stand by. And this is him as a, this to me sounds like somebody who really might try to assassinate the president.

Simone Collins: Or off himself.

I mean, this just seems like a sad person.

Malcolm Collins: I mean, my takeaway from this is that the organizations [00:23:00] aren't screaming against extreme leftism in the way that they should be government organizations.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

They

Malcolm Collins: see extreme leftism as fine.

Simone Collins: Yes. Yeah, that, that seems to be, well, I mean, that's going to change with the Trump administration because on so many fronts. It has flagged leftist extremist views as being not permissible anymore.

Malcolm Collins: So there is going to be a bit of a, we need to just be more aggressive about it.

We need to be using AI as we need to develop a eyes that can scan all everyone who works with the federal government, social media, anything that could be tied to the federal government, social media. And we need, I don't think people should

Simone Collins: be actively disenfranchised for holding ideological views that are different from ours.

I just think that. If someone holds the, they have to

Malcolm Collins: Oh, being a Tifa member is literally equivalent to being a neo nazi in this country. It means you have dehumanized over half of the population of this country.

Simone Collins: Yeah, I mean that, that level of I mean everyone is biased though, I, I do struggle [00:24:00] with this.

No, this

Malcolm Collins: I understand you always want to see the good in people, Simone, and I, I love that about you. But the problem is, is somebody like this, and I've said, I've humanized this individual. I said, I just did. You did, you did, you did, you did, but no, I also think he's an active threat to the president as well.

A person can be a human person who just got brainwashed, who just fell in with the wrong crowd, who has no business being in the federal government,

who has no business, who's supposed to be doing counter sniper stuff for the president when he can just aim his gun at the president.

Yeah, yeah,

we're not. Yeah, he genuinely believes the stuff he's saying, and it seems that he genuinely does. Would he not have a moral mandate to act?

Simone Collins: Well, I don't, I don't know how much has come out from the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt on the president, but do you think in light of the [00:25:00] low level of ideological magic betting that has taken place.

Do you think it's possible that there was intentional looking the other way? Yes, I do

Malcolm Collins: think it's very possible when you consider the fact that the crowd saw the guy, a crowd of

Simone Collins: multiple people were like, Hey guys, there's a guy on the roof with the gun. There's a crowd,

Malcolm Collins: the secret service, I think it was 30 minutes before the secret service did.

Yeah, there, there

Simone Collins: were, there were many, many, many attempts to inform this

Malcolm Collins: guy who had his gun trained on.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: To me, that sounds pretty bad

Simone Collins: when you combine those facts with this fact. I mean, at the same time, though, you know, Trump has had been hadn't had

Malcolm Collins: Biden. Why didn't any of this happen to Obama? Why didn't any of this happen to? None of this happened to any other candidate. It's not like he had one attempt on him.

He had it. Three attempts on him, two came very close with a full gun setup happening. That didn't happen to any other candidate.

Simone Collins: You

Malcolm Collins: can't be like, oh, this [00:26:00] is equivalent, when it's literally not equivalent. It's literally unprecedented.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I just don't know quite what to make of it.

It is, this is pretty sobering

Malcolm Collins: because you're not willing to accept the truth, which is this memetic virus needs to be treated like a dangerous cult. People who are infected with it need to be quarantined and removed from interacting with the federal government,

Simone Collins: like effectively deprogrammed,

Malcolm Collins: not deprogrammed.

They need to be treated the same way. Somebody who went on like a racist rant online would need to be treated like. These people just cannot be trusted with any sort of institutional power.

Speaker 2: You b es are gonna do what I say or I will put my g foot so far up your a You will rue the day you crawled out of your mother's a [00:27:00] Barry!

Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah.

Malcolm Collins: This

Simone Collins: is a systematic problem, not just when it comes to, we'll say, urban monoculture extremism. We have an issue in both Japan and in South Korea with the Moonies getting a little too far into the government, right?

Wasn't the, the Moonies

Malcolm Collins: also were individual. And here's what I want to say. I am not like the lefties against repentance. If somebody is like, I was genuinely wrong, I was genuinely hoodwinked. I was genuinely brainwashed and they're on record with that and they're public about that. I am totally okay with that.

Lefties, of course, don't allow this. You can't be repentant on the left. But on the right, you can be repentant. And, and, and there are people that are like, No, that's not true. Name one person who was a never Trumper and who has ever been forgiven.

Speaker 3: In 2016, he was a staple on TV screens, explaining Trump's appeal with a warning. Referring to Trump as, quote, America's Hitler.

Speaker 4: I'm a never Trump guy. I never liked him.

Malcolm Collins: I don't know, maybe his vice [00:28:00] president? Maybe his literal running mate?

Who said all of these horrible things against Trump and was completely forgiven the left would never Do that again because it's like this totality or they're not gonna be they're not good people But the right we say you say you're wrong Even this guy if he said he's wrong if he went through and he explained to us You know, what's interesting is why it's safe to do this on the right is because no one ever lies about this on the right I've never once seen a lefty, when lefties infiltrate the right, they always pretend to be like different people.

They pretend that they were always racist. And then they're like, like the hope not hate guy talking with us, I was like, Hey, you are uncomfortably racist, buddy, but like, I'm not going to be mean to you just because of your like personal beliefs. I'll like talk to you and humor you. But I'm not gonna like, yeah and I, and I think that that's how they fundamentally misunderstand the right, right?

Like if they assume that all these righties are like racist and they're not, they are the weird, uncomfortable racist in this room. And everyone else is like, [00:29:00] well, he's I don't want to like, shame him, but I will try to guide him away from these beliefs, as we did with the Hope Not Hate guy, and it was actually recorded in the article because the truth is that there isn't this racist base on the right, but there is this racist base on the left, as we saw, When Trump won, them immediately turning against their black population, the Hispanic population.

So this is the way people characterize you versus me. They're like, you're always like, oh, everyone's a good person. No one really did anything wrong. And I'm always like, well, I think it's

Simone Collins: the autist versus the schizoid dynamic that we have, which is that you're like constantly modeling things and Making connections and I am doing the exact opposite of that and assuming that everyone is acting like a rational mechanistic player and that they couldn't possibly have ulterior motives because they haven't told me they have any ulterior motives and therefore they're doing exactly what they tell me that they're doing.

So I think that's what's going on in the end. [00:30:00] This guy

Malcolm Collins: is, by the way, autistic. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years he's

Simone Collins: trans. Well, he's very transparent. I really like that about him. I mean, you know what he stands for and he's made it very clear.

Malcolm Collins: The idiot thing he did and how they found him is he posted lots of pictures on these pseudonymous accounts and they just used AI to find his real accounts using the pictures he was posting on the pseudonymous Reddit accounts.

Simone Collins: Oh, interesting. The more even fighting like

Malcolm Collins: his Spotify account was a an equivalent picture to when he had posted on another thing So like they can confirm with his credit card and everything. It's the same guy So there isn't a lot of doubt that it could be somebody else.

Simone Collins: That makes sense. That makes sense

Malcolm Collins: But what I think one thing i'd like to see was the trump administration is to incorporate the public army that republicans have the the dems Tim's don't have a competent public army, right?

It's all funded by, you know, like, you know, these organizations, like the ones I've been talking about are Hope Not Hate. They're funded by the government. They're funded by [00:31:00] as we did in our Hope Not Hate episode. But the, the spy who has been tracking us where we go into, it's, it probably wasn't, he probably worked for the government directly.

Which is to say that They don't really have a true grassroots. Their, their, their grassroots is like fighting amongst themselves. We have fortune who could unholster their autism for great feats. And not just fortunate, but organizations like this. And I think that we need to develop channels within the Trump administration for individuals like this to deliver messages to the administration, to deliver directions and things that they have found and connections that they've been able to make to the administration so it can be vetted and acted on.

Yeah.

And, and I think if people knew that the administration would. Would act on these potential threats that they'd be much more excited to invest their time in them.

Simone Collins: Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, this is a, it's just, it's sad. I feel bad for him. I'm alarmed. But [00:32:00] at this point, a lot of people recently have been sharing with us various anecdotes similar to this, where I find myself thinking, wow, that's really alarming if it's true, but also I'm not even remotely surprised.

Yeah. I'm

Malcolm Collins: not surprised. Yeah. I'm not surprised. But like, but like, we need to take this as a serious thing, which is to say this, that the secret service is not betting for wanting to kill a Republican president.

Simone Collins: Well, and how do we not get desensitized to this though? Because at this point I'm like, yeah, I mean.

Sure, that probably makes sense, but like, what, like, add it to the pile. Just throw this burning trash pile on top of the other burning trash mountain. Like, I don't know what to do. You know

Malcolm Collins: what Constantine did that we need to do is get rid of the Victorian Guard. I think the Secret Service should be abolished.

It's a wasteful agency. Get rid of it.

Simone Collins: Doesn't it do something with fraud? Oh, wait, it's not doing anything with fraud anymore. So, yeah, screw them. Okay. Yeah, just go back to zero based budgeting with the entire government and [00:33:00] abolish,

Malcolm Collins: yeah, abolish the education. I think a lot of these departments just need to be abolished.

Any iteration of them is to be recreated. It is to be recreated from scratch. None of the bureaucratic bloat, none of the insiders, none of the D. C. decline.

Simone Collins: You don't, yeah, you don't need a Department of Education on the federal level. Arguably, you don't even need state level huge education apparatuses.

When on the local level, people are paying in many cases so much in, like, funding through property taxes. Like, I think we paid 8, 000 dollars this year and mostly school taxes. Like, that's. Shouldn't that be enough? For our system, you know, and yeah, we have kids who are eligible for the public school system.

But this is also a tax that is being paid by childless people by dinks by retired people per year per household. [00:34:00] So. Yeah, there's just too much bureaucracy that that's unnecessary. I mean, I think I was just I think Vsauce released a short recently that I saw where he pointed out that the number of federal holidays at this point.

Is growing at such a high rate that if it continues growing at the same rate soon, federal employees will work zero days a year and you can just take over the government because no one will work anymore. How

Malcolm Collins: long till it works here? It is a year.

Simone Collins: Oh, it's, it's going to take quite a few years, like 300 years or something.

It's, it's too long, but like, I think it's just the number of federal holidays today. Versus what it was in the seventies and then in the thirties is, is really insane. Like they just keep adding more days to take off. In addition, of course, to adding, are we going to get federal? Are we going to get wicked?

What do you mean? Off? No, no, listen. Doge made it very clear that they want 80 hours a week plus from their team. If we were lucky enough to serve there, there would be no sleep. There would be. No, nothing, but [00:35:00] doge, which is worth it. I mean, to serve in that opportunity, it would

Malcolm Collins: be like serving the military, like it would be a service to the country.

Simone Collins: Yeah, 100%. I, I hope that they actually review the CVs of people who submitted their CVs, including us.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, our contact there. Yeah,

Simone Collins: but life is good. Good things are gonna happen and who cares because the Christmas is coming, future days coming. Life is nice at this time of year. It's cold. It's dark. Oh, divine, but I'm just going to enjoy.

Well, I'm excited about the meal

Malcolm Collins: that you're making tonight.

Simone Collins: Poor man's steak and well, the slow cooker. Sweet potato casserole is going to take a while. That'll

Malcolm Collins: be easy for tomorrow, but it's going to be so good.

Simone Collins: We'll see. We'll see.

Malcolm Collins: Simone, I know you don't understand. Why would somebody want mashed sweet potato?

No, that's true. Never mind. [00:36:00] Do you want me to puree it after? No, I want to, like, be able to cut into it and have some semblance that it's its original form. Like, the form

Simone Collins: of it. Okay, so I should try to keep the layers intact when I slide it into the slow cooker.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah,

Simone Collins: okay. We don't have to have to

Malcolm Collins: just

Simone Collins: kind of it's, it's chilled.

So challenge accepted. I'm ready to take this on. I, I appreciate The, the Shokugeki you have presented, competing against myself and your standards. Best anime

Malcolm Collins: ever made. I still think it's my top anime position, um, Star Wars has

Simone Collins: made both of us consistently cry, not from sadness, but from joy. More than any other show that we've god, do you

Malcolm Collins: remind me of the girl in it who's so sweet?

Simone Collins: The girl who's so insecure and comes from a small town. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, she's such a great character. Come on. She is great.

Simone Collins: I just, I love the busty American whose name is some kind of play [00:37:00] on the Japanese word for meat. Is it? Do you know that? I'm sorry. I forget how much Japanese,

Malcolm Collins: you know? Yeah.

Simone Collins: Her, her name is something like Niku something, but yeah, like, yeah.

So I think it's some kind of pun they were going for. It's like, you know, meet Talia. I don't know. You know what I mean? It's a great show. Yeah, I think, I think she's my favorite. No, I don't know. Just anyone whose clothes are being burst off at the, like, most recent moment. Jordan, you don't like the sweet girl?

The, the, no, because I'm never the flutter shy girl. I hate flutter shy, you know, like that, that trope is not my trope. So true.

Malcolm Collins: You know, you, you definitely are not you. Yeah, well I, one girl is definitely my brother's wife.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: No, she's. Yeah. Yeah. She is exactly the personality of my brother's wife.

Simone Collins: The competence and the talent.

100%. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: No, you're probably closer. If you're close [00:38:00] to any character and personality, it's the science cooking girl. Oh, I love her. Autistic and detached and think she's

Simone Collins: better than everyone. I don't, but I don't think I'm better than everyone. So I'm like, I'm her combined with your favorite and that I'm, I'm, I'm deeply self hating and self critical, but I'm also very autistic and uncaring and separated from people.

I love you. Yeah, anyway. We're ending

Malcolm Collins: this with an anime discussion! Although after this we'll have a discussion. What's the thing that we talked about at the beginning? I remember it was interesting. Anyway, you guys are in for another interesting discussion. And I love you, Simone. You are the best. And people say, keep these inbits.

And I don't mind. Because, you know, if you don't like it, then just stop watching now, right?

Simone Collins: Doesn't that increase the drop off rates or something?

Malcolm Collins: Oh, no, no, no, no. I, I structured the episode. So the parts that people may not like watching, they can just end watching without being burdened by. So I try to do all of the most important information at the very

Simone Collins: beginning.

No, no, no. But I mean, like. [00:39:00] YouTube completion rates matter in terms of our stats, right? No, they don't watch

Malcolm Collins: time. That matters. That completion. So

Simone Collins: I,

Malcolm Collins: I tried to segment the dirty

Simone Collins: secrets about you. Can I share Oh, I'll have to think of something. You don't have dirty secrets. You share everything. I love you.

Malcolm Collins: Have a good day. And we'll go get the kids at the turn of the hour. Okay.

Simone Collins: Thank you. Oh gosh. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: No,

Simone Collins: I appreciate it. This gives me time to actually prep the burgers and everything. Cause it's going to take a little, it's going to take a moment. What have you done?

And then we're using Alfredo. That's right. Alfredo. Right. You want to actually do the, do the sauce, right?

Malcolm Collins: You know, I wonder

Simone Collins: Because we could just do cheddar, if you'd rather just do cheddar.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, what were you thinking of doing in terms of an Asian sauce?

Simone Collins: Maybe like just something simple, [00:40:00] like sriracha mayo.

For you.

Malcolm Collins: Sriracha mayo would be perfect to do that.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Okay. So you actually are kind of on board with me, maybe I can try a different sauce on each one. Sriracha

Malcolm Collins: mayo has the creaminess. That's what you're looking for.

Simone Collins: But then you want that, that like Malcolm twist, cause if it's not fusion, you don't like it.

So I'm trying to model you and your desires.

Malcolm Collins: You do a very good job of that. Simone.

Simone Collins: I love you, Malcolm. God, that smile gets me every time. Okay. I'm going to start dinner. You nerd. Other girls have

Malcolm Collins: said that too. I wonder what it is about a smile that gets women.

Simone Collins: It's like, well, you, you have a beautiful face and a great smile and your smile is genuine.

You smize as your mother says you smize that, that sparkle in your eye that I love that goes away when you're not, when you're too exhausted. Anyway. Bye. Have a good day, you guys. Okay. I love you. Bye. From the Christmas story, when they get their they [00:41:00] burn their dinner and they have to go to the Chinese restaurant.

Malcolm Collins: I would always rather have Chinese food than Christmas. I know

Simone Collins: you would. I know you would.

Malcolm Collins: I am so much more a fan of Chinese food than And Christmas and Thanksgiving dinner are just such garbage dinners.

Like who likes turkey? You know how I know we need to have a few conversations here. You know how I know, you know, one likes turkey because we don't eat it any other time of the year. If people like Turkey, Turkey would be a regular thing that people ate. Stuffing would be a regular thing that people ate, but we don't because it tastes.

Like, like a sad chicken. It's the total's meat. It

Simone Collins: tastes like the sauce you give to it and you being a sauce is, man, I am, I'm embarrassed For your lack of creativity, do better. Turkey tastes like sad chicken.

Malcolm Collins: It is,

Simone Collins: it is not a good, no, doesn't, it's not a good Turkey is chicken with terroir. Okay. It is. It's got an earthiness to it.

The tryptophan, you know, it's, it's like, it's the, it's the [00:42:00] absence of, of chicken. Gimme 5%

Malcolm Collins: chicken. 25% dirt. Yes. That's what it tastes like. It takes you just

Simone Collins: no. Oh, great. Now it's frozen on my just up with my camera.

I

Malcolm Collins: hope so. There's buses out there.

Simone Collins: I know.

Malcolm Collins: Okay. Octavian's getting out. So she must be. That's good.

Simone Collins: I wish they would just let them out. You know what I mean? Like just, oh, the children will die. Yeah. It's, it's our house. He has, he knows the, he knows the code to get in the house. Like it's not rocket science.

Malcolm Collins: People are such hippies. All right. So I'll get started.

Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, you guys, how excited are you? You've got a crazy giant bouncy house.

Speaker 11: Oh, wow.