Eric Liu: I've gotten better at recognizing, oh, it's happening and then saying to myself, what you're looking for is not on this device. Just to recognize whatever you need is not here. It's a really profound way for me to then go, okay, where might it be? Right. So we were talking, Eric, with the neuroscientist, psychologist duo, Adam Gazali and Larry Rosen. And they found in their research, one thing they really focus on is how human beings are driven for what they call information rewards,. In very much the same way that many other animals seek food and juice rewards in a forest. Even though for us, it's not

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