Christina: Robin Wall Kimmer's Braiding Sweetgrass is a book for everyone in academia or not. I also have a garden, it's actually gardening is one of the top three things that people say make them happiest. She says she learned about this from an Audrey Lord poem about aphids but ladybugs eat aphids and so like what can we look to in our environment and in our community to find a solution? Christina: We all kind of try to find different things in our environment that we can use as tools to make this better.