Catherine brinkley, welcomed the minscape podcast. I want to talk about the science of cities. This is something you work on, something you hve written about. Thought itwo'ld be fun to just ease our way in by starting with the romance of cities. It's clearly a resonant concept that has different kinds of connotations for different people,. But also the idea that maybe it's little bit less authentic. You know, the hart land and the rural areas are more real America. Presumably other countries feel the same way.

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