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Yasha Monk: Italy's election was won by a trifecta of right-wing populist movements. He says the next governing coalition is likely to consist of Silver Belliscones, Vauxite Italia and Beléga. There are very good reasons to worry about this government, he says; it will be fiscally irresponsible. Monk: But Daudre Milani has at least claimed that she has moderated on some issues.

Heather McGhee is an author and policy advocate with a focus on reducing inequality. She is Board Chair for the organization Color Of Change and a former CEO of the think tank Demos. McGhee is the author of The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together .

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Heather McGhee discuss why progress for one ethnic group need not come at the expense of another; how racial animus has been used in the past to divide Americans who share fundamental interests; and whether the recent focus on "race-sensitive" public threatens to reignite zero-sum competition between different racial groups.

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