Dr. Jodespen has been meditating for 22 years, but had never done anything like this before. He says he struggled the first couple of days with pain in his body and having a really hard time getting out of my senses. But after spending four and a half hours "in the most blissful state" every day, that reward was worth it. The retreat helped him understand how to go into these deep places without any exogenous assistance.

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