In an age of 800 word hot takes and churn, it so struck me how what you've presented in this book are these kind of extremely long-form, deeply immersive stories. Did you set out the very beginning to do that kind of journalism, Camille? It seems at times and travel with them to kind of bring that story back in that way. I think what happened is in 2015 there was the, what they call the boat crisis, the discovery of mass graves in Thailand which kind of forced a light onto the boat traffic that have happened for years between Bangladesh and Myanmar. What happened again, and I think it's starting, we're seeing signs of it now.

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