Product Management

In the amazon case, you came in there, you got involved, and and then you got pulled over to product management. And it would have been a lot harder to get into that rol at amazon if you weren't already working on a business unit there. You're really close to customers. You can really deeply understand their problems. There's natural, organic opportunities for folks to get into product management from kind of a non traditional background. I feel like i was always career wise, probably would end up here even through a, inow, a kind of circular route.