How to Live Off of Your Investments

I think this question could also come from the other day When we were talking about how to live off of your investments, right and you were talking about You think I believe it's what you said tell me if I'm wrong that the pull 4% from your account thing is going to be Dead over the next couple ten years. So yeah, I think it's very hard to spend 5% or 4% or whatever in The 2020s unless stocks or bonds or whatever you're in gets a bit cheaper given what the prices are now It'll be kind of tough. And then he also asked also also thoughts on negative return on equity Well, it depends if it could be two ways right right