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The Power of Collaboration With Kev Simfield
I knew going in that it was going to be a different culture, but I had no ambitions whatsoever on being captain. If I'm going into that group 2006 and thinking, well, I want to be captain and it's just a total wrong thing to do. It just goes against my values as a person. And I think the power of us both together and not having an ego about it was just huge for the for us and the team. So when you talk about an egoless group, you've obviously had to do something there to subsume your own ego to go into it.