"I don't think most people are like in this, in a thing where like they need to actively suffer for 10 years to like reap the rewards of something," he says. "It is more sustainable and more enjoyable to use discipline in small doses when, when necessary" He adds that it's not generally 'a fun way to live life'
In this episode, we catch up (and firmly put all the book highlight reading behind us). Merry Christmas! Enjoy xx