Changing the Face of the World - A Conversation With Chloe Valdry

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My hope, as i reflect on the long reign of queen elizabeth the second, is not that other countries will emulate or institute for british monarchy. My gues to day is chloe valdry. Chloe and i have a lot of things in common in terms of how we think about the world. We also have some real differences on how we approach the world. And particular, chloe has much more of a spiritual bent than i do - which informs both how she talks and the work she is now doing. She is a critic of the way in which many diversity and inclusion in workshops are now run by someone like robin d angelo. As you see from this conversation

Chloé Valdary is a writer and entrepreneur whose company, Theory of Enchantment, aims to offer a “human approach” to diversity and inclusion training.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Chloé Valdary discuss the flaws of the dominant paradigm in diversity, equity, and inclusion; why many of today’s interpersonal conflicts stem from a larger crisis of meaning; and how to engage in big debates about social issues without becoming a combatant in the culture war.

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