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12. Derren Brown — Magic, Happiness, and Skepticism
The Michael Shermer Show
Happiness and Success Are Exactly the Same
"I take a huge amount of pleasure from writing. I've got less pleasure when it exists as a product on the shelves," he says. "Success never, it doesn't suddenly arrive... All you're doing is gradually moving in the direction and a desire for success is coming from ... whatever motivation there is." He adds: "Knowing your talent and your energy is the bit that you could, again, that's the bit you're in control of"
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