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#320: Peiman Raf – Madhappy CEO On Optimism, Building, & Learning

The Danny Miranda Podcast

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How Do You Maintain Presence When You Have No Phone?

"I do find i feel better you know we have an amazing office uh but i think one part that we don't have here and we didn't even have an our old office was like any sort of like nature and in that vibe" "We're lucky to live in l.a. and have a lot of access to that but i i've found that i haven't like experienced that as much recently," she says. She also does the 24-hour no technology thing, which has helped her focus more on being with people rather than just using your phone. 'i used to like check email like every second checks lock every second have like every notification come up'  she adds

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