A lot of your leadership stories talk about parenting. How can we start looking at the lens of parenting leadership? Also, again, you get no training, which is interesting. So we started this when Axel was, he's 11 now and he was five. He did learn to skate. I feel like growing up in New England, you should know how to ice skate. We would stop at Dunkin Donuts and we would buy five chocolate glazed munchkins. And before practice, he would go over, what are the five four? Let's talk about it before practice.

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