John Vervaeke & Jonathan Pageau: Decoding the Demons
Decoding the Gurus
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The Complexity of Metaphors
It's a clearly clearly I mean an intelligent the agent distributed. Distributed patterns pattern pattern. That is that is no, not conscious. Not conscious but having a distributed effect on a group of people. Yeah, it might even be a metaphysical reality some people could say but yeah. So like I just and I think Joan Vervaki would probably because he leans more towards the academic side. It would take issue with us saying, you know, he doesn't care about definitions and stuff. But from all the content I've heard of his in discussion with other sense makers at very least he's very open to talking and dense metaphorical abstractions.
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