We have to recognize, you know, feeling blue or sad or low. That's normal. Somebody who is like chronically depressed that has maybe it's a brain chemistry thing or I don't know what. And they can't even get out of bed without taking their antidepressants... Is that too much to ask to just apply stoicism for those people? "Psychological or psychiatric even help is certainly not only not exclusive, but definitely complimentary philosophical reflect"

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