i am interested, especially in our region where non former work is tarian. Those who produce the working class must be themselves productive of value. Not considering those activity as value producer is a political dosition but also a form of considering wageless lives as not productive. i think that it's very important to recognize why all those kinds of labor are not recognized an have. The idea of value is the idea of forms of exploitation. So we cannot reduce value as a form of exploitation that is recognized by wages. We were talking before about how that exploits social reproduction, for example. And i think that the financial devices are very smart and very speedy to extract value and to exploit