John Mack (LinkedIn) author, speaker, photographer and founder of the non-profit Life Calling, focused on preserving our humanity in a digital age. We get into the weeds of what technology is doing to us at the moment, and why exactly it is so pervasive. We also speak of what it has the potential to do for us. We speak of the meta-crisis and how it is an offer for us to really reimagine the world. John also speaks of his ROH - return on human, we speak of human vs humane tech, touch upon why no-one seems to question the question: what do I need to do to preserve my humanity in this digital age? This conversation goes deep. Enjoy!