David Perry: I think the only objection has to be that it encourages actual victimization and that's a question of evidence. Would you support then like some sort of animated child pornography? He says there are probably firm geological grounds about rights which would at least make me not object to pedophile masturbating to, to cartoon images of porn. "I still think you need to do more than yell because people yelled about gay people for so long," he adds.