Pad gasped, what do you mean? We haven't rade it again? Think that's where igt nowoh, we're done with this? Well, well, i mean, there's a lot of hole they talk. It was an interesting dynamic because joe wasn't the one pushing the envelope,. Where usually the guest is more subdued, and joe is like, ats true. Assumes rule. But then in this case, when the guest assumes that rule, joe has to assume the other rule which i'm not sure is really where he wants to be. And like i said, i agree with him, but i go, do i sound like that when

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