YCBK 277: How to know if a college is really test-optional
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The Importance of AP Scores in College Admissions
I have found that a lot of schools have informally gone from test optional to test flexible on the more competitive levels. When I'm working with a family and they do not have SAT or ACT scores to submit, a lot of kids take three or four APs junior year. Some kids have taken like six and if they don't have good scores there, that's a tough sell. Like you don't want to submit your APs or your SATs or your ACTs. So it's interesting to hear you say that people are looking at AP scores in lieu of that.
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In this episode you will hear: (07:15) Mark and Dave discuss an article, “One state offers lessons in how to cope with the college enrollment crisis”. The article is by Jon Marcus of the Hechinger Report and it was written on 8/28/2022. Mark and Dave discuss all of the steps the University of Maine took to turn around their bleak enrollment situation. Dave and Mark discuss what other colleges can learn from the actions that the University of Maine took. (35:06) Mark and Lisa discuss 8 signs to look at when trying to determine if a college values test scores, even if they purport to be test-optional. Part 2 of 2 (01:06:35) Mark continues his interview with Milyon Truelove, the Vice President and Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Reed College. Milyon explains why Reed College made the decision to not contribute to the US News and World Report’s college rankings (Part 2 of 2) Preview of Part 2 How much would movement in the rankings impact Reed Does Reed uniquely benefit because they flouted US News Ranking Milyon comments on the new book by former Reed President, Colin Driver, Breaking Ranks: How the Rankings Industry Rules Higher Education and What to Do about It Milyon explains why he likes “test-blind” Milyon talks about whether the rankings are helpful in any way Mark and Milyon discuss the downside of putting too much emphasis on the number of Pell recipients in your recruitment (01:13:52) Our Recommended Resource is PAYE (Pay as you Earn) video that Melissa Ford of the Damsel of Success YouTube channel produced. The video does an excellent job explaining when it makes sense for a student use the PAYE plan for loan repayment and how it may be able to save you tens of thousands of dollar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5454IKZ49k Please send in your questions either on Twitter at @YCBKpodcast using the Messages tab (this is our preference) or via email at for the 25 admissions interviews we are doing in the summer and fall. 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