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The Art of Charm: Johnny Dzubak - The Michael Sartain Podcast

The Michael Sartain Podcast

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The Endorphins and the Ultra Marathon

"I suspect that the the abuse from trueness he tells to a certain extent I think there's things he leaves out," says Michael. "It was so interesting to like watch the way that man is motivated so differently from the rest of us and it's just like a vector That you know I kind of hope I can grab onto the other thing is dealing with haters everyone tells me Michael just block him delete him."

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