"What's frustrating for me, and I don't know if you see this also, is that it's so not the norm," he says. "It took me decades to learn how not to bleed out along the way, and every once in a while I forget and I go back." He adds: "Life will keep teaching it to you until you get it. That's the beauty of life ... The lesson never goes away until it's learned"

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