What's the Bar for Treatment of Anxiety or Depression?

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i'd love it if you could maybe just set up what that is. It seems like an incredible way to drive impactful outcomes. We are a medical company, so we treat people who have a diagnosis of anxiety or depression. And i think because of thi stigma around mental health, there's this kind of you that if you're not cripplingly anxious or depressed, that you don't qualify for a diagnosis ofxiety or depression. But if you're like, stuck in bed, exactly, get ye. Which, again, is this just stigma that we need to break.

In Episode #47, we explore psychedelics and democratizing access to psychedelic therapy with Jack Swain, Head of Clinical Operations at Mindbloom. We cover why Mindbloom is focused on treating depression and anxiety, Mindbloom’s treatment model and clinicians, and the importance of journaling in mental health therapy.

“The research around psychedelics is just unreal; the potential of these medicines to completely transform the way that we provide mental health care and help people who really need big changes in their life is really exciting.” – Jack Swain

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This episode is our guide to psychedelics and democratizing access to psychedelic therapy. In it we cover:

(00:00:00) – Introduction
(00:01:52) – Jack’s background and intro to Mindbloom
(00:05:33) – How healthcare today is broken, and why Jack is hopeful that it will improve
(00:09:13) – What is psychedelic therapy?
(00:14:14) – Why Mindbloom is focused on treating depression and anxiety
(00:17:28) – Progress in the world of psychedelic medicine
(00:19:30) – Examples of successful treatment with Mindbloom
(00:23:11) – Mindbloom’s treatment model and clinicians
(00:31:42) – Scaling a telemedicine company
(00:40:47) – The history of psychedelic medicine
(00:48:09) – The importance of journaling in mental health therapy
(00:51:13) – The data and research coming from Mindbloom

ABOUT MINDBLOOM

Mindbloom as we explore the world of psychedelic therapy. In this episode, you'll learn why psychedelics have emerged as one of the best ways to treat anxiety and depression, how a forgotten body of research from the 1950s and '60s led to the emergence of psychedelics today, how Mindbloom scaled from a single clinical office in 2019 to a nationwide telemedicine practice through the pandemic. We talk through an average patient's journey from working with a clinician, to their guide, to journaling, to tripping at home, and we talk through why psychedelics are so effective at treating conditions ranging from generalized anxiety and depression to PTSD.

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