Marty sits down with Calle to discuss Cashu.
Cashu: https://cashu.space/
Calle on Nostr: https://primal.net/calle
0:00 - Intro
0:36 - Programming is art
5:36 - Zooming out on the struggle for freedom
10:23 - Dealing with the pace of change
14:20 - Unchained & Fold
16:13 - Financial privacy
20:43 - Chaumian ecash history
33:34 - Zaprite & SOTE
35:06 - Ecash on bitcoin
42:55 - Hash pools
48:45 - Interoperable systems
52:11 - We need more privacy and more devs
55:24 - Narrative and communication
1:00:45 - Magic stuff that just works
1:10:19 - Nostr as a gateway to bitcoin
1:17:21 - Wrap up
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